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PostSubject: People who think Kurt Cobain is an amazing musician or lyricist are retarded.   Sun May 25, 2008 1:52 pm

Fact.
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PostSubject: Re: People who think Kurt Cobain is an amazing musician or lyricist are retarded.   Sun May 25, 2008 1:54 pm

Aww....But I like Nirvana. I don't think he is amazing....just pretty good.
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PostSubject: Re: People who think Kurt Cobain is an amazing musician or lyricist are retarded.   Sun May 25, 2008 2:02 pm

How? He's pretty good because he can't write a song that isn't of basic structure? Or because he writes lyrics that are equal to those of a small child? Or maybe it's because he couldn't even play his own guitar parts well?
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PostSubject: Re: People who think Kurt Cobain is an amazing musician or lyricist are retarded.   Mon May 26, 2008 12:28 am

When I think of people like him and Layne Staley I think what if they didn't fuck up their lives and die? Because every one of their albums are great, there aren't very many of them. I think if they kept going they could have done amazing things.
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PostSubject: Re: People who think Kurt Cobain is an amazing musician or lyricist are retarded.   Mon May 26, 2008 12:31 am

I don't think Nirvana would have really been something great had he lived. I prefer Foo Fighters... so to me, his death was a fortunate thing for music.
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PostSubject: Re: People who think Kurt Cobain is an amazing musician or lyricist are retarded.   Mon May 26, 2008 1:01 am

He was a pretty good musician. I don't understand why people think he was a good lyricist though.
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PostSubject: Re: People who think Kurt Cobain is an amazing musician or lyricist are retarded.   Mon May 26, 2008 1:03 am

I dunno, I don't really hear good musicianship from him when I hear Nirvana. It sounds like just the average crap any kid can play.
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PostSubject: Re: People who think Kurt Cobain is an amazing musician or lyricist are retarded.   Mon May 26, 2008 1:05 am

Yeah, his songs more or less are like that, but they're still great songs.
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PostSubject: Re: People who think Kurt Cobain is an amazing musician or lyricist are retarded.   Mon May 26, 2008 4:57 am

You're pretty critical for someone who listens to Hillary Duff.
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PostSubject: Re: People who think Kurt Cobain is an amazing musician or lyricist are retarded.   Mon May 26, 2008 2:54 pm

She can sing.

Kurt Cobain cannot.
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PostSubject: Re: People who think Kurt Cobain is an amazing musician or lyricist are retarded.   Mon May 26, 2008 4:38 pm

Well he didn't make music because he was a great singer or wanted to be some highly technical guy. He just wanted to express himself. I think he got that accomplished.
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PostSubject: Re: People who think Kurt Cobain is an amazing musician or lyricist are retarded.   Mon May 26, 2008 7:14 pm

He expressed his retardation very well.
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PostSubject: Re: People who think Kurt Cobain is an amazing musician or lyricist are retarded.   Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:55 am

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He's pretty good because he can't write a song that isn't of basic structure?
He's considered (at least) "pretty good" because he wrote songs that left an immense impression on a great number of people's lives and rock music in general. Whether or not his songs were complex is irrelevant. Hell, if anything, it's often the simple music that has more of an emotional impact.

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I don't think Nirvana would have really been something great had he lived.
That must be why their impact was compared to that of The Beatles prior to Kurt's death. Remember "Nirvanamania"?

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She can sing.
Er...that's debatable. And besides, having a nice voice from a technical perspective doesn't automatically mean you're going to be a good songwriter. Not that Hilary writes her own songs or anything, of course...
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PostSubject: Re: People who think Kurt Cobain is an amazing musician or lyricist are retarded.   Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:05 am

Nirvana got much bigger after his death. There were fans back before that, but they really blew up afterwards.

Plus, it's not really having to do with their popularity. The guy wasn't even that amazing. That's my point. People liking them is fine... I just don't see why he should be regarded as a genius or virtuoso.
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PostSubject: Re: People who think Kurt Cobain is an amazing musician or lyricist are retarded.   Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:15 am

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Nirvana got much bigger after his death.
Well yeah, dying tends to have that effect - not to mention bands like that simply get bigger with time.

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The guy wasn't even that amazing. That's my point. People liking them is fine... I just don't see why he should be regarded as a genius or virtuoso.
And my point is that you can't objectively measure how amazing a songwriter is...

...wait, who ever said that Nirvana were virtuosos?
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PostSubject: Re: People who think Kurt Cobain is an amazing musician or lyricist are retarded.   Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:19 am

Man... If you look on the internet... or run across people who don't know much about music you'll find those people.

I've honestly had people sit and try to tell me that Kurt Cobain was a genius and that his lyrics had immense depth and he was one of the greatest lyricists of all time.
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PostSubject: Re: People who think Kurt Cobain is an amazing musician or lyricist are retarded.   Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:35 am

What's wrong with that though? The lyrics to any given song could have a huge impact on one person and bore the next. It's not like you can measure how good or bad lyrics are.
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PostSubject: Re: People who think Kurt Cobain is an amazing musician or lyricist are retarded.   Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:42 am

you can to an extent

SHE LOVES YOU YA YA YA

Bad lyrics.
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PostSubject: Re: People who think Kurt Cobain is an amazing musician or lyricist are retarded.   Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:43 am

Well, this thread was created over a particular thread on a different message board. Sure, my argument may seem strange or just wrong to you... but had you seen what I'm basically responding to here, you might see it a bit differently... or at least where I'm coming from with this. It's been about a week though, so I can't even remember everything that was said.
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PostSubject: Re: People who think Kurt Cobain is an amazing musician or lyricist are retarded.   Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:24 pm

He sucks, yo.
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